Lara – The "Christian" Feminist

Sometimes discussing your beliefs and passions in public can be fun and encouraging.  Other times it can be frustrating and even disheartening.  Then there are times like this, where it is just plain confusing!  We recently saw a link to Beth’s article on Gender specific education from a self proclaim reluctant feminist; Lara.
What is confusing about Lara is she claims to be a Christian and says the Bible is her favorite book, “above all else“.  The confusing part is how someone who reads the Bible can claim that feminism is a good thing and even countenance it as a philosophy.  After reading through her category on feminism, I believe there may be many people in this same position of trying to reconcile the Bible with feminism.  It is to that I wish to offer a few thoughts.
First, I’ve noticed the line of reasoning usually does not start with the Bible, it starts with emotional ploys, such as; look at all the good feminism has done – after all women can vote now.  Or, what about all those women who are oppressed by wicked men.  Let’s be very candid and allow me to speak like a man here if I can.  Those statements are red herrings typical of the women’s rights women of the Planned Parenthood ilk.  They throw out some emotion filled statement about women being raped and being forced to have a baby to cover up the truth of the murder of the baby. 
The statement makes an assumption of a good while ignoring the evil that must take place for the so called good.
In the case of women voting, they had the right to vote in many states here in America long before so called suffrage.  In order to exercise that right they had to be the head of a household and a landowner.  The same requirements for men to vote.  Now this was not consistence across all states, but it was at least the starting place for most of the laws prior to suffrage.  The Biblical principle is if the woman is part of the man’s household he represents his family and is responsible for what his family does.  Bible Reference:

And Moses spoke unto the heads of the tribes concerning the children of Israel, saying, This is the thing which the LORD hath commanded. If a man vow a vow unto the LORD, or swear an oath to bind his soul with a bond; he shall not break his word, he shall do according to all that proceedeth out of his mouth.
If a woman also vow a vow unto the LORD, and bind herself by a bond, being in her father’s house in her youth; And her father hear her vow, and her bond wherewith she hath bound her soul, and her father shall hold his peace at her: then all her vows shall stand, and every bond wherewith she hath bound her soul shall stand. But if her father disallow her in the day that he heareth; not any of her vows, or of her bonds wherewith she hath bound her soul, shall stand: and the LORD shall forgive her, because her father disallowed her.
And if she had at all a husband, when she vowed, or uttered aught out of her lips, wherewith she bound her soul; And her husband heard it, and held his peace at her in the day that he heard it: then her vows shall stand, and her bonds wherewith she bound her soul shall stand. But if her husband disallowed her on the day that he heard it; then he shall make her vow which she vowed, and that which she uttered with her lips, wherewith she bound her soul, of none effect: and the LORD shall forgive her.  But every vow of a widow, and of her that is divorced, wherewith they have bound their souls, shall stand against her.
And if she vowed in her husband’s house, or bound her soul by a bond with an oath; And her husband heard it, and held his peace at her, and disallowed her not: then all her vows shall stand, and every bond wherewith she bound her soul shall stand. But if her husband hath utterly made them void on the day he heard them; then whatsoever proceeded out of her lips concerning her vows, or concerning the bond of her soul, shall not stand: her husband hath made them void; and the LORD shall forgive her. Every vow, and every binding oath to afflict the soul, her husband may establish it, or her husband may make it void.
But if her husband altogether hold his peace at her from day to day; then he establisheth all her vows, or all her bonds, which are upon her: he confirmeth them, because he held his peace at her in the day that he heard them. But if he shall any ways make them void after that he hath heard them; then he shall bear her iniquity. These are the statutes, which the LORD commanded Moses, between a man and his wife, between the father and his daughter, being yet in her youth in her father’s house.   (Num 30:1-16)

So what “good” did we gain when women received the right to vote?  Instead of a woman being in subjection to her husband, trusting and helping him in his responsibilities to lead the family and make decisions, including who would best represent the family in the civic realm, we have the woman now with the civic “freedom” to counter her husband’s wishes and actually nullify his wishes for the family.  Let’s distinguish between a civic freedom and a Biblical command here as well.  Just because a law is passed does not make it morally right.  Reference the abortion laws for instance.
Bible Reference:

The aged women likewise, that they be in behavior as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.  (Tit 2:3-5)
In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with braided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array. But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.  (1Ti 2:9-15)

One has to ask this question, how serious is blasphemy?  If Titus 2 was the only Scripture in the Bible that addressed this issue would this be enough to overthrow the ideology of feminism?
To be clear this has nothing to do with how smart or capable a woman is and it has everything to do with God’s order for society. Lara, is a PhD student so I’m fairly certain God blessed her with an articulate tongue and a quick wit, as evidenced in her writings. I happen to think my wife is brilliant. God has given her the ability to think and to write and to be a blessing to those around her. These gifting are not lost because she submits to her husband, rather they are enhanced.
No the issue here is not the intelligence and skill of the woman or the ability of the man for that matter, it is about God’s created order for society.  God created mankind.  God has spoken in His Word about how we are to relate to one another. 
Bible Reference:

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
(Gen 1:27)
… but for Adam there was not found a help meet for him. And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.  (Gen 2:20-24)

What we gained when women won the right to vote, was not freedom for women, but the destruction of the biblical family and God’s created order.  A woman was not created to stand alone any more than a man was.  God created each of us distinct to complement one another and to bring glory to Him.  We are equal in value before God, but very different in the functions and roles we are called to fulfill in this world.  The man’s role is to lead his family.  The woman’s role is to support her husband and be his helpmate in the work God calls him to.
I don’t think most Christians, women or men, realize how inundated we are by the philosophies of this world and the social humanism that came with the industrial revolution.  We like to pick our own small little piece of the battle and we miss the bigger picture as described in the summery of this post.  As to the socialist humanistic education system, I don’t think it is helpful for men or women.  Why would we go to the God hating Darwinist to ask them to teach us about God’s world?
The Bible is more than a good book with some suggestions, it is the source book for the law we live by and the grace that is our eternal hope.  It is the only sure rule we can hang our eternal lives upon.  All other philosophies will fail, but the Word of God will not return void.

7 Comments

  • Kristin L. says:

    “I don’t think most Christians, women or men, realize how inundated we are by the philosophies of this world…”
    Paul,
    I agree with you wholeheartedly on this! I have to admit that the last six months or so has been one of many challenges for me. I’ve realized that much of what I “knew” as a Christian was at least partially based on an incorrect worldview. I’m so thankful that you took the time to address the comments Lara made. I only wish I were as able to state what I believe and why… I will continue to return to your blog as a source of encouragement in my own walk. Thank you for providing Biblical references to all your beliefs. They have helped me immensely.
    ~kjl

  • tkonvalin says:

    Paul:
    I was reading an article that spoke to the issue of Christians so being immersed in the culture that they cannot see the problem that surrounds them. They are so close to the culture that change becomes very hard. This does not just touch on the issue of feminism but many other areas such voting, schooling and many others.
    My firm conviction is that at issue is the sufficiency of scripture and ultimately the sufficiently of God. When the “professing church” is so immersed in the world that it manipulates scripture to meet its needs a myriad of issues arise. First the Old Testament is basically thrown out and not just the blatant imperatives but even the principle those imperatives dictate. Next in line is to moralize the scriptures so that there are no absolutes and the end result is a “church” that looks just like the world and a church that does not see the problem.
    Thanks for your article as it will take people standing firm on God’s word to counteract the problems at hand. The great struggle is that many of those, I am speaking of those professing to be Christians, that are immersed in the culture speak of using God’s word but it is a use driven by what is around them and they do not even seem to notice it. Again thanks for your thoughts.

  • Paul:
    I know you know this, but for the benefit of your readers, let me suggest an excellent resource. It is The Monstrous Regiment of Women, produced by Colin Gunn. Here is the website address: http://www.monstrousregiment.com/
    This is a very good documentary that goes into great detail on the harm feminism has wrought on women in particular. Mrs. Jenny Chancey is one of the ladies interviewed in this production. She used to be a self proclaimed “Christian Feminist,” but has seen the error of her ways and repented. She now runs an excellent website: http://www.ladiesagainstfeminism.com/
    Now Paul, I’ll share something that you may not be aware of. Colin Gunn is about to release audio interviews with the same ladies he interviewed in the DVD. I have previewed these, and they are excellent! There are 12 audio interviews ranging between 43 and 65 minutes in length, each. If you’ve seen the Monstrous Regiment DVD you won’t want to miss the much more in depth audio interviews. Mrs. Chancey’s interview alone is worth the purchase price of the audio set. Colin has not yet released the audio interviews. But if you want to be contacted when they are available, sign up today at http://www.colingunn.com/
    Blessings,
    Mike Southerland
    http://www.mikesoutherland.com

  • PaulTN says:

    Mike,
    Thanks for the info on the new Audio CDs. That sounds like a great resource.

  • Brittany Shelley says:

    I am against feminism but I believe there is nothing wrong with a woman voting. My mom and dad vote. There has not been any problems because of that. My mom is a great housekeeper but every election she goes out and vote. Both of my parents have the same political views so there is no conflict. I don’t believe a woman voting is evil as long as it don’t cause conflict with her husband. Also what about single women? Please email me at [removed].

  • PaulTN says:

    Brittany,

    My wife votes too… that is the government we live under. But if we are talking about biblical principles then the government would recognize the husband as the sole representative for his household according to God’s structure for family life.

    Even before the women’s rights women began their march for androgyny women had the right to vote. A widow who inherited her husband and was the head of the household had a vote as a property owner.

    The idea of a single woman however is a novelty of this century, this is the real issue. Prior to that time a woman was the wife of her husband or a daughter in her father’s house. There have always been exceptions such as in the case of orphans, but the notion of a woman growing up with the intention of being “single” and independent of her family is a recent development and antithetical to the bible.

    You might enjoy this site for more info on this topic.

    http://www.ladiesagainstfeminism.com/

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